Make It Stop (September's Children) Lyrics
Like a breath exhaled
Then gone forever
It seems like just yesterday
How did I miss the red flags raise?
Think back to the days we laughed
We braved these bitter storms together
Then brought to his knees he cried
But on his feet he died
And what god drove us apart?
What god could
Let this end
Eighteen years pushed to the ledge
It's come to this
A weightless step
On the way down singing
The schoolhouse halls
The shotgun's loaded
Push me and I'll push back
I'm done asking, I demand
I feel its love like a cattle prod
Born free, but still they hate
(Born me)
I'm born me, no I can't change
It's always darkest just before the dawn
So stay awake with me, let's prove them wrong
Let this end
Eighteen years pushed to the ledge
It's come to this
A weightless step
On the way down singing
But how could we forget
The gatherings hold candles
But not their tongues
And too much blood has flown from the wrists
Of the children shamed for those they chose to kiss
Who will rise to stop the blood?
Insisting on
A different beat, yeah
Let this end
This life chose me, I'm not lost in sin
(Whoa) And proud I stand, of who I am
I plan to go on living
Let this end
All these years pushed to the ledge
(Whoa) But proud I stand, of who I am
I plan to go on living

Amazing song. I'm consistantly amazed by these guys. To stand up for the tolerance of everyone (gays being the main focus here) takes a special kind of band, and leave it to Tim and the band to do so. This song gives me chills every time I hear this. Reading the names of the kids who committed sucide towards the end is incredibly powerful too. Great song, great album.
Is it about Tyler Clementi, though? I mean at the end it says i'm going to go on living and Tyler Clementi commited suicide.
Is it about Tyler Clementi, though? I mean at the end it says i'm going to go on living and Tyler Clementi commited suicide.
it's more about changing the status quo, it isn't about any one of the kids specifically, but is more about the fact that these kids killed themselves for something that shouldn't be as big a deal as it is. I have to thank Rise Against for putting this song out, as a gay man it really makes me proud that a band I love will stand up for equality!
it's more about changing the status quo, it isn't about any one of the kids specifically, but is more about the fact that these kids killed themselves for something that shouldn't be as big a deal as it is. I have to thank Rise Against for putting this song out, as a gay man it really makes me proud that a band I love will stand up for equality!

From what i know of tim mcilrath and rise against from the years i've loved them i am certain he isn't attacking god, he is attacking the system that allows these deeds to be inflicted on innocent people. it's a challenge to change our way of thinking as a civilisation and world and as a human race. it most definitely is not against god. tim is all about tolerence, acceptance and compassion shown to all

I'm just putting this out there but I don't think the song is about sexual discrimination based on their sexual preference. I mean many lyrics in the song seem to support this but I think the song is about suicide in general due to bullying and even worse then just suicide.
"The schoolhouse halls The shotgun's loaded Push me and i'll push back"
These lines seem to give me the idea of those massacres in America of when students have walked through and killed other students. I think the song is saying that these people were driven by being bullying. I don't think the song is justifying their deeds but I think its saying that Bullying is what caused this in some cases. Don't get me wrong this is only an idea it can be wrong or right.
Looking at the verses it appears the song is done from three different perspectives.
Looking at the verses it appears the song is done from three different perspectives.
The first verse from the point of a close friend or family member, it speaks on a personal term of the suicide victim "how did I miss the red flags raise?" red flags a sign of warning, possible a mother asking why she couldn't have helped her child?
The first verse from the point of a close friend or family member, it speaks on a personal term of the suicide victim "how did I miss the red flags raise?" red flags a sign of warning, possible a mother asking why she couldn't have helped her child?
The second is speaking from the point of view of the suicide victim, seems quite straight forward, asking why he's different.
The second is speaking from the point of view of the suicide victim, seems quite straight forward, asking why he's different.
The last appears to be from a group such as the government, rise against or...
The last appears to be from a group such as the government, rise against or anti bullying organisation. Speaking in general about all the children who died. Saying how disgusting in is that we allow this to go on.
...perhaps
I see how that works and I agree. I just done think this song is only about discrimination against sexual preference. I think its bullying in general. Which is something I think you have picked up as well?
I see how that works and I agree. I just done think this song is only about discrimination against sexual preference. I think its bullying in general. Which is something I think you have picked up as well?
I'm not one to insist that a song must be about one thing, but I would have you consider the bridge:
I'm not one to insist that a song must be about one thing, but I would have you consider the bridge:
"The gatherings hold their candles, But not their tongues. And too much blood has fallen from the wrists Of the children shamed for those they chose to kiss"
"The gatherings hold their candles, But not their tongues. And too much blood has fallen from the wrists Of the children shamed for those they chose to kiss"
I take the first two lines as the gatherings of people mourning after the suicides (a candle-light vigil was held after Tyler Clemente's death, and I don't know about the other boys), but people in general not changing their ways. The second two lines are fairly straightforward.
I take the first two lines as the gatherings of people mourning after the suicides (a candle-light vigil was held after Tyler Clemente's death, and I don't know about the other boys), but people in general not changing their ways. The second two lines are fairly straightforward.

@elemele Okay, you're a homophobic twat. K?
And your logic sucks, a child's life won't be f*cked up if he/she is brought up to believe in equality and sexuality acceptance.
Unlike someone like you, who I hope very deeply has never met a homosexual. They're just normal people, I sincerely hope they didn't have to put up with your out-of-date, homophobic, illogical, hate-filled rubbish.
Anyway, onto the song. Love it. Powerful songs like this from RA are what makes them by far my favorite artist, bloody love them! haha
And the bit where it goes "what God would damn a heart"... so true. I'm an atheist, and the idea of a God that would hate on his own creations like this is sickening and EVIL. Fortunately society is changing and less and less people everyday believe in this hate-filled God.
Ahh, and finally- @uprisingknight, if you really believe in a different God to that of the one in the Bible then are you really Christian? No. If you want to morph the Christian beliefs into your own, that's fine, but that does logically mean you're not a Christian anymore. Just pointing that out.
/rant
Anyway yeah awesome song, <3 Rise Against!
Nooooooo! Having different beliefs than what is said in the Bible does not mean you're not a Christian! That's incredibly ignorant if you to say that.
Nooooooo! Having different beliefs than what is said in the Bible does not mean you're not a Christian! That's incredibly ignorant if you to say that.
i'm christen too, and really, if God doesn't wants gays in heaven then i guess i don't want to go to heaven either. really, is God going to discrimate against people who love the same sex? really? God going to hate certain people for being a certain way. AND where exactly in the bible does it say that homosexuality is a sin? find me the exact chapter and exact verse and i'll say i was wrong but i won't discriminate my own people. seriously man, just because somewhere in the bible it says God hates homos doesn't mean i'm going to stop being...
i'm christen too, and really, if God doesn't wants gays in heaven then i guess i don't want to go to heaven either. really, is God going to discrimate against people who love the same sex? really? God going to hate certain people for being a certain way. AND where exactly in the bible does it say that homosexuality is a sin? find me the exact chapter and exact verse and i'll say i was wrong but i won't discriminate my own people. seriously man, just because somewhere in the bible it says God hates homos doesn't mean i'm going to stop being christen or starting hating gays. the bible is just a book written by people. no one understands God and if people want to believe that God doesn't feel that way about things, then it doesn't mean you stop being christen. /rant if God is a homophoic, damn me to hell, i don't care!
@katievanish No, it does, quite literally. Your beliefs will be the same, you'll just be under a different title. I'm talking extremely literally here, and I'm not speaking in an ignorant manor.
@katievanish No, it does, quite literally. Your beliefs will be the same, you'll just be under a different title. I'm talking extremely literally here, and I'm not speaking in an ignorant manor.
Besides, throughout the history of Christianity it's been primarily a damaging thing to our society, so why people are so quick to defend it and themselves for it is beyond me.
Besides, throughout the history of Christianity it's been primarily a damaging thing to our society, so why people are so quick to defend it and themselves for it is beyond me.
@rockandroll21 Doesn't it say something along the lines of "thou shalt not lie w/ another man"? If you've read the Bible you'll be familiar w/ that, if not I'll have to go searching for the exact verse...
@rockandroll21 Doesn't it say something along the lines of "thou shalt not lie w/ another man"? If you've read the Bible you'll be familiar w/ that, if not I'll have to go searching for the exact verse haha.
But yeah, again, to both of you- if you believe something that's not in the Bible, you quite literally are not Christian. You're essentially believing a hybrid of it. If you can't see how then I feel bad for you, no offence intended.

I am a Christian, and personally I believe it is wrong to be gay. However, I think it's an absolute atrocity that as a culture we persecute gays. I appreciate Rise Against exposing the horrors that a mindless, thoughtless culture causes. Whether or not you believe it is okay to be gay we should all walk beside the gay people, helping them, not chastising them.
i totally agree!! gays are people too. and they deserve to be treated rite. they did nothing to harm or offend us in any way.
i totally agree!! gays are people too. and they deserve to be treated rite. they did nothing to harm or offend us in any way.
I'm curious, why do you disagree with gays, when god created them he chose them to "choose" gayness, thats like adopting a child so you can mistreat him/her
I'm curious, why do you disagree with gays, when god created them he chose them to "choose" gayness, thats like adopting a child so you can mistreat him/her
@jc99ta...I agree! as a fellow Christian I agree 100% that we need to help them rather than persecute them.
@jc99ta...I agree! as a fellow Christian I agree 100% that we need to help them rather than persecute them.
@justaronee...there is nothing sinful in having gay attractions, but one needs to recognize this as a potential temptation and not act on it, we have no control over temptation and resisting temptation can actually grow spiritual strength...the sin is in the act..that which we do have control over. Someone may have an inclination to kill someone, but no one would prosecute them on this inclination alone..the criminality lies in the actual act and choice to kill...not the temptation....
@justaronee...there is nothing sinful in having gay attractions, but one needs to recognize this as a potential temptation and not act on it, we have no control over temptation and resisting temptation can actually grow spiritual strength...the sin is in the act..that which we do have control over. Someone may have an inclination to kill someone, but no one would prosecute them on this inclination alone..the criminality lies in the actual act and choice to kill...not the temptation.
My heart goes out to all those suicide victims

elemele its people like you that lead to incidents like this, what is wrong with you? im glad rise against did this song, one of the best off the cd and its about the suicides of the kids they say in the song, mainly tyler clementi. this song really opened my eyes and realized how screwed up sum people are, bullying someone just because of the sexual preferences

Bang bang go the coffin nails, Like a breath exhaled, Then gone forever. -- Obviously refers to someone dying (via suicide)
It seems like just yesterday, How did I miss the red flags raise? -- After any seemingly preventable catastrophe, everyone asks what the "red flags" were, and why they were ignored. "Red flags" refer to warning signs
Think back to the days we laughed We braved these bitter storms together. Brought to his knees he cried, But on his feet he died. -- The last line probably implies the preventable and self-inflicted nature of suicides. When somenoe bedridden and dying from a disease, no one says they died on their feet- their life is clearly being taken by forces outside of their control. In a suicide, however, the person has full control over the situation but makes the choice to kill themselves.
What God would damn a heart? And what God drove us apart? What God could -- I'm not sure I would call this anti-religion- we've heard plenty of devout religious people question God in times of grief- but perhaps it is open to interpretation.
Make it stop Let this end Eighteen years pushed to the ledge. -- One of the more poetic lines in the song, 18 years is how old Tyler Clemente was when he died. The line, of course, describes how he was bullied during his lifetime and was pushed closer to killing himself throughout his years.
It's come to this, A weightless step. On the way down singing, Woah, woah. -- The weightless step describes the first step off the bridge, beginning Clemente's free fall to his demise.
Bang bang from the closet walls, The schoolhouse halls, The shotgun's loaded. Push me and I'll push back. I'm done asking, I demand. -- Describes the much-publicized possibility for fatal retaliation from bullying victims.
From a nation under God, I feel it's love like a cattle prod. Born free, but still they hate. Born me, no I can't change. -- Most of the song to this point has focused narrowly on the individual committing suicide and those grieving. But these few lines take a shot at U.S. society. The first line is from the Pledge of Allegiance, and mockingly points out that Americans are supposed to be loving of all people created by God. America also frequently spouts freedom as one of its core qualities, which Rise Against also questions. Finally, the last line comes right out and states the belief that homosexuals are born gay. The line doesn't flow well with the song, in my opinion, but it completes a logical argument that people who can't change who they are shouldn't be harassed, especially by those who claim to be freedom-loving.
It's always darkest just before the dawn. So stay awake with me, let's prove them wrong. -- Perhaps the first empowering line in the song, this is the first taste of Rise Against imploring bullying victims to overcome their hardships.
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The cold river washed him away, But how could we forget. The gatherings hold candles But not their tongues. -- I'm not sure what this means. I'm positive it has an important meaning, though, especially the last two lines.
And too much blood has flown from the wrists, Of the children shamed for those they chose to kiss. Who will rise to stop the blood. -- The first two lines express disgust (perhaps of both sides) of the many cases in which gays cut their wrists because of the mental anguish they receive from bullying because of their sexual orientation.
We're calling for Insisting on A different beat, yeah A brand new song -- Rise Against answers the call from the previous line, saying they will aim to curb the bullying of gays.
Woah, woah. (Tyler Clemente age 18) A brand new song Woah, woah. (Billy Lucas age 15) Woah, woah. (Harrison Chase Brown age 15) Woah, woah. (Cody J. Barker age 17) (Seth Walsh age 13) -- I don't know who the last four are, but it is clear that they are victims of bullying who have taken their lives.
Make it stop. Let this end, This life chose me, I'm not lost in sin But proud I stand Of who I am I plan to go on living -- It is again reiterated that being gay isn't a choice. An uplifting trio of lines follows, in attempt to empower homosexuals to be proud of who they are.
Make it stop. Let this end, All these years pushed to the ledge. But proud I stand Of who I am I plan to go on living -- It is no longer "18 years pushed to the ledge," perhaps because Rise Against is no longer talking about Tyler Clemente. They now are speaking to teenagers and young adults of all ages who are currently being bullied, acknowledging that they are being pushed to the ledge year by year. The trio of empowering lines is again repeated, ending the song on an uplifting note.
That's my analysis, feel free to disagree or add anything you think I missed. This song touched me in a way I can hardly describe. I just can't bear to see and hear about bigoted violence in society today, and it's about time that society's more enlightened individuals make it stop. I'm a 21 year old straight guy who has only listened to this song twice, but I'll be sure to let you guys know the first time I'm able to listen to the entirety of this song without having tears stream down my face.
God bless everyone- if you're not Christian, I hope it's not because conservative-leaning congregations have pushed you away. We're not all like that- some of us take it literally when Jesus told us to love everyone. Nonetheless, it shouldn't take a deity to convince people to treat others with respect. I just hope more people will remember that in the future.
"The cold river washed him away, But how could we forget. The gatherings hold candles But not their tongues."
"The cold river washed him away, But how could we forget. The gatherings hold candles But not their tongues."
This line, i think, means that a kid committed sucide and he's now dead, and no one he knew will foget that this person is gone, and while they feel sorry and go to his funeral or one of those candle lighting things you see, they aren't going to stop bullying. They won't hold their tongues.
This line, i think, means that a kid committed sucide and he's now dead, and no one he knew will foget that this person is gone, and while they feel sorry and go to his funeral or one of those candle lighting things you see, they aren't going to stop bullying. They won't hold their tongues.
The first line is about the Hudson River that he jumped into from the GW Bridge.
The first line is about the Hudson River that he jumped into from the GW Bridge.
I think you are right about the rest. Or maybe also just gossiping (which can be a form of bullying).
I think you are right about the rest. Or maybe also just gossiping (which can be a form of bullying).
in my opinion "What God would damn a heart? And what God drove us apart? What God could" is aimed a religious people who treat homosexuals and bisexuals badly saying, if that is the will of your god how can you really call them a god. After all gods are ment to love all people so a god could not hate anyone because of their sexual orientation and "The cold river washed him away, But how could we forget. The gatherings hold candles But not their tongues." I am not completely sure about the first two lines, it could refer to a suicide by drowning themselves but i doubt that....
in my opinion "What God would damn a heart? And what God drove us apart? What God could" is aimed a religious people who treat homosexuals and bisexuals badly saying, if that is the will of your god how can you really call them a god. After all gods are ment to love all people so a god could not hate anyone because of their sexual orientation and "The cold river washed him away, But how could we forget. The gatherings hold candles But not their tongues." I am not completely sure about the first two lines, it could refer to a suicide by drowning themselves but i doubt that. however the last two lines refer to the people who mourn them, they hold candles for them but where it says 'but not their tongues' holding the tongue is a metaphor for being silent so i believe that means they couldn't stop themselves from taking about the victims, gossiping even.

Rise Against is awesome! Too few alt rock bands take a stand on social issues. "Help Is on the Way" was a scathing indictment about the tragedies inflicted on the people of the Gulf Coast. Now, "Make It Stop" is a poignant, moving statement about gay teen suicide...with an upbeat, hopeful ending!
As a 53 year-old gay man who survived not only miserable teen years, but the AIDS crisis as well, I really applaud the guys in Rise Against for taking a stand on this issue. Sadly, there has been little attention paid to Rise Against in the gay media, except for something on the LOGO network. Unfortunately, most gay people I know have their heads up their asses when it comes to music. They listen to Lady Gaga and think she's gutsy for speaking out in support of gays (she knows who buys her music). On the other hand, Rise Against can influence the most important audience to reach with this message...the 18-24 year old male.
The video for "Make It Stop" contains powerful images and was filmed at lead singer Tim's alma mater high school in Rolling Meadows, Illinois (the suburb next door to where I spent my miserable teens). I can't wait for Rise Against's next album!

WOO, just did some research, I know EXACTLY what this song is about. This is about the suicide of Tyler Clementi, an 18-years-old gay college student whose roommate videoed him and another man having sex, and distributing it to his friends. Tyler committed suicide by jumping off a bridge.
oh, btw, the names at the end: Tyler Clementi, age 18 Billy Lucas, age 15 Harrison Chase Brown, age 15 Cody J. Barker, age 17 Seth Walsh, age 13
oh, btw, the names at the end: Tyler Clementi, age 18 Billy Lucas, age 15 Harrison Chase Brown, age 15 Cody J. Barker, age 17 Seth Walsh, age 13
They all committed suicide because of the way people treated them for being gay.
They all committed suicide because of the way people treated them for being gay.
Also It says names in the last verse if you listen closely. This song is incredibly sad
Also It says names in the last verse if you listen closely. This song is incredibly sad
It's sad how people can be and it makes a great point what god would deal a heart? and what god drove us apart? what god could
It's sad how people can be and it makes a great point what god would deal a heart? and what god drove us apart? what god could
So many people try and use religion to bash gays and it doesn't work
So many people try and use religion to bash gays and it doesn't work

I think he wrote it from the viewpoint of a gay child/adult who's saying they'll live proud of what they are. And riseagainstSOT was right. They say names in the background in the last verse too, but they're pretty drowned out.. Can anyone make them out?
The first is Tyler Clementi age 18(suicide september 22, 2010), the Rutgers Student, the second is Billy Lucas age 15(suicide september 9, 2010), the third is Harrison Chase Brown age 15(september 25, 2010), the fourth is Cody J. Barker age 17(september 13, 2010), the last one is Seth Walsh age 13(september 19, 2010)
The first is Tyler Clementi age 18(suicide september 22, 2010), the Rutgers Student, the second is Billy Lucas age 15(suicide september 9, 2010), the third is Harrison Chase Brown age 15(september 25, 2010), the fourth is Cody J. Barker age 17(september 13, 2010), the last one is Seth Walsh age 13(september 19, 2010)
I think he means during the last verse, those were said before it. I could hear 4 names, but I couldn't make out what they were.
I think he means during the last verse, those were said before it. I could hear 4 names, but I couldn't make out what they were.
After Seth Walsh: Asher Brown, age 13.
After Seth Walsh: Asher Brown, age 13.